Real stories from guests who dared to get uncomfortable in a moment that challenged their worldview. In the thick of intense emotions, they chose to stay curious and open, rather than lash out or shy away, and came out the other side with stronger relationships, clearer beliefs, and increased confidence. And you can do it too! So, if you: • Want to engage with others on important topics but aren’t sure how, OR • Are burned out on social media and wish you could bring the humanity back into discussions online or in real life, Look no further! Whether you're a seasoned seeker of new ideas or just dipping your toes into the uncomfy waters, this podcast is your go-to destination for learning how to improve your communication, disagree more productively, and be a more inspired leader. In such a polarized world, we believe learning how to stick with moments that challenge us, without getting defensive or shutting down, is a direct antidote for division. Are you ready to lean in, listen up, and get uncomfy with us? Let's dive in together! Uncomfy: Sticking with Moments that Challenge Us is hosted by journalist Julie Rose and is a BYUradio production. #reallifestories #communication #polarization #relationshipskills #communicationskills #leadershipskills #leadershiptraining #community #communitybuilding #disagreebetter #buildingbridges #perspectives #worldview #resilience #emotionalresiliance #mentalhealth #training #mindfulness #conflictresolution #growthmindset #empowerment #problemsolving #respect #curiosity #activelistening #collaboration https://www.byuradio.org/4142fdc2-c4ae-4d55-9ffb-42de64af2f72 en-us © 2026 BYU Broadcasting BYUradio BYUradio byurpodcasts@byu.edu false Episodic Meet the teams behind Top of Mind and Uncomfy in this special crossover episode, where we share stories of sticking with a challenging perspective while working on the shows. We are exposed to a lot of nuanced viewpoints as we put podcast episodes together, which gives us the perfect opportunity to practice what we preach: choosing to lean into discomfort instead of lashing out or shying away. We’ve found clarity about our own beliefs, empathy for the people around us, and also developed the skills to tackle tough conversations. Tune in to Top of Mind to practice engaging with important, complicated topics. Check out Uncomfy, too, where we’re sharing stories of people choosing to engage in an uncomfortable moment instead of stepping back. And if you’ve had an “Uncomfy” experience lately, share it with us by emailing uncomfy@byu.edu. Guests: Top of Mind producers - Alayna Beck, Caleb Leach, Vanessa Goodman, and James Hoopes. Uncomfy producers - Samuel Benson and Henrique Prado. 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In the thick of intense emotions, they chose to stay curious and open, rather than lash out or shy away, and came out the other side with stronger relationships, clearer beliefs, and increased confidence. And you can do it too! If you want to engage with others on important topics but aren’t sure how, or are burned out on social media and wish you could bring the humanity back into discussions online or in real life, look no further! Whether you're a seasoned seeker of new ideas or just dipping your toes into the Uncomfy waters, this podcast is your go-to destination for learning how to improve your communication, disagree more productively, and be a more inspired leader. In such a polarized world, we believe learning how to stick with moments that challenge us, without getting defensive or shutting down, is a direct antidote for division. Are you ready to lean in, listen up, and get Uncomfy with us? Let's dive in together! The new podcast launches July 10th with new episodes every Wednesday on your podcast platform of choice. Make sure to follow or subscribe so that you never miss an episode. Uncomfy: Sticking with Moments that Challenge Us is hosted by journalist Julie Rose and is a BYUradio production. #reallifestories #communication #polarization #relationshipskills #communicationskills #leadershipskills #leadershiptraining #community #communitybuilding #disagreebetter #buildingbridges #perspectives #worldview #resilience #emotionalresiliance #mentalhealth #training #mindfulness #conflictresolution #growthmindset #empowerment #problemsolving #respect #curiosity #activelistening #collaboration https://www.byuradio.org/ee0774ac-0039-4b64-89f0-4351c82b63c0 ee0774ac0039-4b64-89f0-4351c82b63c0 Wed, 12 Jun 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 98 trailer In this special bonus drop, four of our 2024 Uncomfy guests give some advice on how to stick with the discomfort that can come around the holidays. From potentially uncomfortable encounters with relatives to dealing with mental health struggles, we hope this advice helps you to get Uncomfy during this festive season. Featured Guests: Vanessa Otero (Ad Fontes Media), Erik DaRosa (From Survivor to Thriver), David French (The New York Times), and Rich Harwood (The Harwood Institute) Related Links: Vanessa Otero’s Uncomfy episode – https://youtu.be/ms7b-aDHMjk Erik DaRosa’s Uncomfy episode – https://youtu.be/aBTyU2UZeU0 David French’s Uncomfy episode – https://youtu.be/wD7V1_-0w2w Rich Harwood’s Uncomfy episode – https://youtu.be/jCpJ1e2Uwj4 Follow us on social media! Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/ Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast Bluesky - https://bsky.app/profile/uncomfypodcast.bsky.social Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast X - https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod https://www.byuradio.org/8374bf43-6160-4252-8d49-28d5b343583d 8374bf436160-4252-8d49-28d5b343583d Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:00:00 GMT false 638 bonus 2024 BJ Campbell, a Second Amendment advocate, and Dr. Eric Fleegler, a physician and researcher focused on preventing gun violence, were part of a year-long experiment—two dozen people with radically different views on guns meeting month after month to find common ground on policy. It sounds impossible. At first, even they thought it would fail. But something surprising happened: they were able to create a set of gun policies they could all stand behind. How did they do it? ABOUT GUESTS BJ Campbell is a gun owner and Second Amendment advocate who writes for Recoil Magazine and Open Source Defense (https://hwfo.substack.com/p/after-action-report-bridging-the). Dr. Eric Fleegler is a pediatric emergency physician at Massachusetts General Hospital who researches gun violence prevention and firearm-related injury (https://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/23684/eric-fleegler). Learn more about the project and the policies they agreed on - http://bridgethedividenow.org/ CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:39) A Bold Gun Policy Experiment (1:19) Meet BJ Campbell and Dr. Eric Fleegler (2:06) Expectations and Skepticism (3:48) Dr. Fleegler on Real Compromise (4:42) Background Check Exemptions (6:58) Campbell's Trust Moment on Red Flags (9:08) Humanizing and Building Bonds (12:06) Hope and Limits of Scaling (13:28) Why the Effort Matters (15:02) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/e86ed160-fc3a-4407-8b72-0134bfe9be2e e86ed160fc3a-4407-8b72-0134bfe9be2e Wed, 22 Apr 2026 06:00:00 GMT false 1029 full 2026 16 Have you ever left a conversation thinking, “They didn’t hear me at all”? Journalist and author Mónica Guzmán shares stories from her own life, from not fully listening to her daughter, to navigating emotional disagreements with her mom, to setting intentional conversations with people who see the world differently. She unpacks what’s really going on in our heads when we stop listening and how small shifts can completely change the way we connect, especially with our loved ones. ABOUT GUEST Mónica Guzmán is the author of “I Never Thought of It That Way,” an advisor with Braver Angels, and the founder of Reclaim Curiosity (https://linktr.ee/moniguzman). Check Mónica out on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/moniguzman/ CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (1:31) Mónica’s Call with Mom (3:35) What She Needed from Mom (4:47) Acknowledge Good Points (5:37) Three Conversations at Once (7:03) Spanish at Home Lesson (9:24) Critical Listening Trap (10:34) Repairing Missed Moments (12:36) Scheduling Disagreement Talks (15:15) Wrap Up and Resources https://www.byuradio.org/539262e0-45b0-4c9c-ae05-8c33ab2b4a4f 539262e045b0-4c9c-ae05-8c33ab2b4a4f Wed, 15 Apr 2026 06:00:00 GMT false 1013 full 2026 15 What would you do if you planned an event and nobody showed up? Michael Wilker knows exactly how that feels. One night, after years of organizing a monthly meetup, he sat alone at a bar waiting for people that never came. It was awkward, humbling, and it almost made him quit. But he didn’t. Instead, Michael kept showing up, and, over time, that simple decision helped grow a small gathering of six dads into a thriving community of more than 400 men in his neighborhood. ABOUT GUEST Michael Wilker is one of the co-founders of Del Ray Dads, a grassroots community of 400+ men in Alexandria, Virginia. CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:48) Nobody Showed Up (3:37) How Del Ray Dads Began (4:50) The Listserv (6:40) Support in Grief (8:54) Bollywood Dance Rehearsals (12:15) Rules That Prevent Drama (13:37) Why It Lasts (15:05) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/be25f9e7-3ed2-455d-a361-b0f32d64929e be25f9e73ed2-455d-a361-b0f32d64929e Wed, 08 Apr 2026 06:00:00 GMT false 999 full 2026 14 What if the people who seem the most “put together” are actually struggling the most? Clinical psychologist Dr. Margaret Rutherford unpacks something she calls “Perfectly Hidden Depression” — the kind of struggle that hides behind achievement, perfectionism, and a life that looks flawless from the outside. Dr. Rutherford shares how perfectionism can become emotional armor protecting us from pain, but also disconnecting us from real feelings, real relationships, and even ourselves. ABOUT GUEST Dr. Margaret Rutherford is a clinical psychologist, TEDx speaker, and author of several books. Her latest is “The Perfectly Hidden Depression Workbook” (https://drmargaretrutherford.com/). CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:49) Therapist Tells Her Truth (3:31) Fear of Being Judged (5:43) What is Perfectly Hidden Depression (7:21) Perfectionism as Armor (10:45) Emotional Range Shrinks (12:33) First Steps Toward Change (15:09) Transparency Over Vulnerability (16:52) Julie Reflection and Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/63ab35db-7a02-4509-ad4e-7ef41ea4d3cf 63ab35db7a02-4509-ad4e-7ef41ea4d3cf Wed, 01 Apr 2026 06:00:00 GMT false 1111 full 2026 13 When someone calls 911, they’re not just asking for help, they’re handing over everything. Author and former paramedic Kevin Hazzard takes us inside his very first cardiac arrest call: a Thanksgiving dinner, a grandmother collapsing at the head of the table, and a room full of people waiting for a miracle that might not come. But the moment that stayed with him isn’t what you’d expect. ABOUT GUEST Kevin Hazzard is an author, journalist, TV and film writer, and former paramedic. His memoir is called “A Thousand Naked Strangers.” His new book is “No One’s Coming: The Rogue Heroes Our Government Turns to When There’s Nowhere Else to Turn” (https://a.co/d/0eVCVDLA) CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (1:00) Meet Kevin Hazzard (1:25) Thanksgiving Cardiac Arrest (4:29) Aftermath and Family Grace (5:48) Medicine on Display (7:30) Why the Job Hooks You (9:47) Tourist to True Believer (12:03) Mortality and Presence (13:09) Burnout and Wake Up Call (16:09) What Heroism Really Means (18:37) The New Book (20:00) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/0458a413-624d-4d30-8701-a567b3834586 0458a413624d-4d30-8701-a567b3834586 Wed, 25 Mar 2026 06:00:00 GMT false 1315 full 2026 12 What if the goal of disagreement isn’t to win but to build a bridge to the next conversation? Harvard Kennedy School professor Julia Minson studies one thing: how to disagree better. In this episode of Uncomfy, she shares why most of us confuse disagreement with conflict and how that mistake quietly damages our closest relationships. From ballroom dancing arguments with her husband to a life-and-death disagreement with her mother’s oncologist, Julia explains the powerful difference between being receptive and being persuaded. “You don’t have to give in to make someone feel profoundly heard.” ABOUT GUEST Julia Minson is a professor of public policy at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government and author of the new book, “How to Disagree Better” (https://www.juliaminson.com/) CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:56) Meet Julia Minson (1:30) Kitchen Dance Disagreement (4:12) Disagreement vs Conflict (6:07) Studying Disagreement (7:18) Receptive Not Persuaded (8:43) Mom’s Doctor Story (13:01) Listen With Your Mouth (15:08) HEAR Framework Breakdown (19:12) Authenticity and Practice (21:03) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/afe2d279-caf2-41cd-8eae-99ee1cf2edc6 afe2d279caf2-41cd-8eae-99ee1cf2edc6 Wed, 18 Mar 2026 06:00:00 GMT false 1392 full 2026 11 What do you do when you hear your child’s teacher may be treating them unfairly — and you hate confrontation? Caitlin Kindred shares the phone call that left her shaking… and forced her into “mama bear” mode. What started as an uncomfortable school conflict led to something unexpected: her son’s ADHD diagnosis — and ultimately her own diagnosis at age 38. ABOUT GUEST Caitlin Kindred is a mom, former middle school teacher, and co-host of the podcast “How to Be a Grownup: A Humorous Guide for Moms” (https://www.ckandgkpodcast.com/) CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:46) A Call from A Concerned Parent (3:09) Avoiding Confrontation (4:18) Email and Meeting Plan (5:32) ADHD Discovery (7:40) Late Diagnosis Validation (9:49) ADHD Traits and Time (11:30) Parenting With ADHD (13:15) News Stress and Boundaries (16:22) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/9a47f066-ad51-4530-aaa0-f67619220a41 9a47f066ad51-4530-aaa0-f67619220a41 Wed, 11 Mar 2026 06:00:00 GMT false 1083 full 2026 10 What if one big question could change your life? Kalina Silverman became known around the world for walking up to strangers and skipping the small talk. Instead of “How’s the weather?” she asks questions like: - What are you proud of? - What’s been the darkest time of your life—and how did you get through it? - What do you want to do before you die? She calls it Big Talk, and she thinks everyone should be doing it. ABOUT GUEST Kalina Silverman is the creator of Big Talk (@makebigtalk on Instagram and Tik Tok) and author of the new book, “Big Talk: How to Skip the Small Talk, Make Meaningful Connections, and Enrich Your Life” (https://www.kalinasilverman.com/) CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:41) Meet Kalina Silverman (1:39) The First Big Talk Experiment (2:59) The Simple Intro That Works (4:35) The Magic of Talking to Strangers (6:16) Big Talk 101 (7:31) Big Talk Conversations After Disasters (9:42) Listening Without Fixing (10:20) Who the Book Is For (11:39) Personal Impact (12:57) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/8eafa6c4-d0b5-47ab-aefd-87bee473bf80 8eafa6c4d0b5-47ab-aefd-87bee473bf80 Wed, 04 Mar 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 889 full 2026 9 What happens when someone you love doesn’t react the way you do to something that feels viscerally wrong? After the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis, Anne Marie Denman texted her mom, and what followed was a conversation that could have deepened a painful divide. Instead, it deepened their connection. CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:42) Meet Anne Marie Denman (2:05) Mom Checks In—And the Reply That Stung (4:34) Catching Dysregulation & Choosing a New Response (5:32) Naming the Real Issue (8:03) The Risk of Uncomfy Conversations (8:59) Her Mom’s Response (and Why It Was Enough) (10:07) A Troubled History and What the Email Changed (13:18) How Their Family Stays Connected Through Deep Differences (15:52) Why Anne Marie Shares Her Story (18:27) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/74af6858-0da8-4d17-8b62-2cfbff4a923e 74af68580da8-4d17-8b62-2cfbff4a923e Wed, 25 Feb 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 1183 full 2026 8 What if the problem isn’t disagreement — it’s how we ask the question? Shira Hoffer was a freshman at Harvard when she asked what she thought was a simple, honest question and got completely shut down. That moment launched her into studying and helping others with something all of us are wrestling with right now: how to stay curious when conversations get tense. ABOUT GUEST Shira Hoffer is the Executive Director of The Viewpoints Project (https://viewpointsproject.org). Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2026/02/why-asking-questions-feels-so-risky.html CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (1:04) Meet Shira Hoffer (1:25) Shira's Classroom Experience (5:19) The Viewpoints Project (6:27) The Science of Curiosity (9:49) Navigating Difficult Conversations (14:12) A Disagreement Gone Wrong (19:26) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/c86acf31-152b-4ce7-bf81-18ca230a83a1 c86acf31152b-4ce7-bf81-18ca230a83a1 Wed, 18 Feb 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 1257 full 2026 7 What happens when three people with completely different identities and perspectives speak up in the same room, each saying they don’t feel safe? In this episode, Raj Vinnakota shares a powerful moment from a university auditorium where tension was thick, fear was real, and the stakes couldn’t have been higher. He unpacks what it actually takes to create spaces on campus (and in everyday life) where people with deeply different views can stay present, curious, and human. We’re all in the same boat. The question is: how do we stay in it together? ABOUT GUEST Raj Vinnakota is the president of the Institute for Citizens and Scholars (https://citizensandscholars.org/). Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2026/02/free-speech-fear-and-fixing.html CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (1:12) Meet Raj Vinnakota (2:20) The Conservative Student's Question (4:28) The Pro-Choice Lesbian's Perspective (7:04) Safety and Engagement on Campus (9:19) Creating a Culture of Productive Conversations (11:46) Personal Practices for Better Conversations (13:52) Raj's Personal Experience with Disagreement (15:58) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/16f7e2dc-27d3-4897-b086-025f1be7fa22 16f7e2dc27d3-4897-b086-025f1be7fa22 Wed, 11 Feb 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 1059 full 2026 6 Why being alone feels so hard—and how solitude can make you healthier, calmer and more connected. Robert Coplan spent months on the road as a solo musician, driving through the southern U.S. with long stretches of boredom, isolation, and nowhere to escape his own thoughts. Then he made one small shift that turned his misery into meaning. Coplan has since spent his career studying solitude—why we resist it, what it gives us when we stop fighting it, and how too little “me time” can leave us stressed, irritable, and disconnected. GUEST Robert Coplan is a professor of psychology at Carleton University and author of “The Joy of Solitude: How to Reconnect with Yourself in an Overconnected World” (https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Joy-of-Solitude/Robert-J-Coplan/9781668053423) Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2026/02/why-being-alone-might-be-exactly-what.html CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (1:05) Meet Robert Coplan (1:28) From Musician to Psychologist (3:17) The Joy of Solitude (5:28) Experimenting with Solitude (10:32) The Role of Technology in Solitude (13:08) Loneliness vs. Solitude (15:46) The Concept of "Aloneliness" (17:09) Normalizing the Need for Alone Time (18:12) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/79b79081-8f41-4dcf-8339-6620d248f914 79b790818f41-4dcf-8339-6620d248f914 Wed, 04 Feb 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 1180 full 2026 5 What do you do when your values clash with the people you love most? Licensed clinical social worker and author Kelsey Blahnik joins Uncomfy to challenge the growing “no-contact” trend and offer a more nuanced alternative she calls The And Way—a framework for holding your convictions and staying in relationship. Kelsey Blahnik’s book, The And Way: Assertive Peacemaking in a Divided World — https://theandwaypress.com Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2026/01/why-cutting-people-off-isnt-always.html CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (1:00) Meet Kelsey Blahnik (1:36) A Dinner Gone Awkward (3:03) Navigating Disagreements (4:20) Therapeutic Insights (5:57) Balancing Relationships and Boundaries (7:54) Practical Examples (11:20) “The And Way” in Personal Life (12:21) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/ba081de7-3aa2-4b04-af0c-43775f423d8f ba081de73aa2-4b04-af0c-43775f423d8f Wed, 28 Jan 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 840 full 2026 4 Father Francis Gargani entered religious life as a teenager and has remained in the Church through seasons of change, challenge, and growth. Over the years, his ministry has taken many forms—from parish life and campus ministry to caring for people with AIDS and walking alongside LGBTQ Catholics seeking spiritual community. Throughout it all, he reflects on what has helped him stay rooted: community, prayer, and a deep trust in God’s presence. Together, host Julie Rose and Father Francis explore what it means to stay when faith becomes uncomfortable and how community, compassion, and a deep conviction in God’s love can sustain a life of service. ABOUT THE GUEST Father Francis Gargani was ordained a Roman Catholic priest in 1971 and is a member of the Redemptorists of Baltimore Province (https://redemptorists.net/). Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2026/01/serving-on-edges-60-years-of-catholic.html CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:37) Meet Father Francis Gargani (1:08) Early Religious Journey (4:14) Challenges in Pastoral Ministry (7:35) Campus Ministry and AIDS Outreach (11:30) LGBTQ Outreach and Controversy (13:53) Intentional Communities and Modern Ministry (17:12) Finding Peace and Staying Hopeful (19:23) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/9811fdc4-ddf2-4760-9a1b-4a3e6900224f 9811fdc4ddf2-4760-9a1b-4a3e6900224f Wed, 21 Jan 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 1272 full 2026 3 How would you react if thousands of strangers chose to berate you online? Adam Becker, CEO of HeadOn, shares what happened when he, a Jew living in Israel, began video-chatting with complete strangers online right after October 7th, 2023. Some insulted him. Some threatened him. But instead of clicking away, he chose to stick it out. Through thousands of conversations, Adam discovered surprising ways to humanize conversations that usually turn hostile. Those experiments eventually became the foundation for HeadOn, a platform where AI helps match people, set conversational “challenges,” and reduce misunderstanding. ABOUT THE GUEST Adam Becker is the CEO of HeadOn, an online platform designed to help people have good-faith conversations about deeply divisive issues including the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. (https://headon.ai) Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2026/01/he-let-strangers-yell-at-him-and-it.html CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:37) Meet Adam Becker: CEO of HeadOn (2:36) Experimenting with Conversations on Chat Apps (3:54) Handling Hostility and Building Understanding (7:53) Humanizing Through Shared Experiences (10:05) Scaling Conversations with AI (11:13) How HeadOn Matches and Moderates Conversations (15:13) The Goal: Reducing Misunderstandings (16:58) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/ea93763f-8838-4702-964e-b85387ad7bde ea93763f8838-4702-964e-b85387ad7bde Wed, 14 Jan 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 1126 full 2026 2 Pastor and author Bob Fabey shares a moment that changed the way he sees people forever — when an elderly woman collapsed in a grocery store and shoppers literally stepped over her to check out. Host Julie Rose and Father Fabey explore why fear, inconvenience, and social conditioning keep us from stopping, even when we know someone needs help. From everyday moments of discomfort to the devastating consequences of dehumanization, this conversation examines what happens when we stop seeing people as people. ABOUT THE GUEST Bob Fabey is a pastor at Living Faith Anglican Church in Tempe, Arizona, author of “Not My Jesus” and “The Dignity Gap,” and a TEDx speaker whose work focuses on dignity, faith, and human connection. (https://www.bobfabey.com/) Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2026/01/why-helping-stranger-feels-so.html CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:18) Meet Bob Fabey (0:55) A Woman Collapses in a Grocery Store (2:36) When People Are Stepped Over Instead of Seen (3:16) The Rationalizations We Make to Avoid Helping (4:11) Fear, Inconvenience, and Choosing to Be Uncomfy (5:32) Learning to Practice Compassion in Real Time (7:24) A Teacher Who Changed Everything (10:27) Dignity vs. Respect (11:24) Loving People You Don’t Like (12:49) Rwanda and the Cost of Dehumanization (15:48) Final Thoughts https://www.byuradio.org/4d73b877-3071-421f-981c-d5f2f664f3ce 4d73b8773071-421f-981c-d5f2f664f3ce Wed, 07 Jan 2026 07:00:00 GMT false 1047 full 2026 1 Happy New Year! As many of us think about fresh starts, healing strained relationships might be part of that journey. Today, host Julie Rose revisits a powerful conversation with Justin Jones-Fosu, meaningful work researcher and author of “I Respectfully Disagree: How to Have Difficult Conversations in a Divided World.” Justin shares the deeply personal story of reconciling with his father after years of distance and hurt — not by seeking an apology, but by choosing curiosity over assumptions and conversation over confrontation. His insights remind us that reconciliation doesn’t always require agreement. Sometimes it simply asks us to stay on the road with people instead of “taking the exit.” Learn more about Justin Jones-Fosu’s work - https://workmeaningful.com/ CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (1:46) Justin Jones-Fosu on Avoidance and Curiosity (2:35) A Personal Story of Reconciliation (5:00) The Concept of 'Taking the Exit' (12:47) The Circles of Grace Challenge (16:27) Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/16f0c7be-8054-4f2e-aced-8eca2e99d769 16f0c7be8054-4f2e-aced-8eca2e99d769 Wed, 31 Dec 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1083 full 2025 52 How do you stay curious when someone’s words feel like a personal attack? In this replay episode—perfect for a season full of family gatherings, big emotions, and unexpected disagreements—host Julie Rose sits down with theologian, author, and podcast host Kaitlyn Schiess (The Ballot and the Bible; The Holy Post). Kaitlyn shares real stories from her life and ministry that reveal what’s actually going on beneath our most heated conflicts. She explains why political or theological disagreements often feel so personal, how family and identity shape our reactions, and what it takes to ask better questions when the conversation gets tense. Learn more about Kaitlyn Schiess’ work - https://kaitlynschiess.com/ We’d love to hear how you’ve navigated disagreement in your faith community. Email us at uncomfy@byu.edu or connect with us on social media. CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:19) Introducing Kaitlyn Schiess (2:21) Kaitlyn Schiess on Teaching Kids (3:36) Navigating Tough Conversations (8:48) Personal Stories of Conflict (17:05) Theological and Practical Reasons for Engagement (21:26) Kaitlyn's Upcoming Projects (21:46) Conclusion Episode originally aired on January 25, 2025. https://www.byuradio.org/1f600cc7-f3f3-40c1-ac67-0964be0ae867 1f600cc7f3f3-40c1-ac67-0964be0ae867 Wed, 24 Dec 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1427 full 2025 51 When Amy Dott Harmer, executive director of the Utah Refugee Connection, discovered a forgotten note tucked inside Santa’s chair after a holiday celebration for refugees, she didn’t know what to do. The letter listed humble wishes: clothes, diapers, even toilet paper. Overwhelmed and out of time, Amy turned to social media, and that’s when Lenice Paulsen stepped up. In this special Light the World episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose talks with Amy Dott and Lenice about how an uncomfortable moment turned into a Christmas miracle and how paying attention to the needs around us can change lives. Learn more about Light the World, a global invitation by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to spread light and serve others during the holiday season: https://www.lighttheworld.org Check out Utah Refugee Connection - https://serverefugees.org/ Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/12/a-lost-letter-strangers-kindness-and.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:44 The Gathering of Light Celebration 01:53 The Letter to Santa 05:13 Lenice's Response and Action 07:20 Delivering Christmas Miracles 10:30 Reflections on Light and Service 12:08 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/da22b1f6-48ab-4762-b998-804ea3d38f3c da22b1f648ab-4762-b998-804ea3d38f3c Wed, 17 Dec 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 778 full 2025 50 When’s the last time you took a hard look at your own side? Political columnist and foreign policy expert Shadi Hamid joins Uncomfy to talk about the difficult, often painful process of changing your mind — especially when it means challenging the people on your own side. Hamid, once an outspoken critic of American power and an anti-war activist, now argues the opposite in his new book, “The Case for American Power.” In this episode, he opens up about: - His post-9/11 political awakening - Why he went from protesting U.S. power to believing it’s sometimes the only moral option - Cognitive dissonance around U.S. foreign policy - Why progressives shouldn’t give up on influencing American power from within - How we can disagree deeply while still living together in a democracy Shadi Hamid’s new book, “The Case for American Power” - https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Case-for-American-Power/Shadi-Hamid/9781668031889 Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/12/from-anti-war-activist-to-defender-of.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:45 Introducing Shadi Hamid 01:34 Shadi Hamid's Formative Years and Political Awakening 04:23 The Evolution of Shadi Hamid's Views on American Power 07:37 The Role of Identity and Experience in Shadi Hamid's Perspective 11:08 A Call to Action for Progressives 15:39 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/a096ae90-e1d8-4de9-a643-6c629836ad93 a096ae90e1d8-4de9-a643-6c629836ad93 Wed, 10 Dec 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1082 full 2025 49 When Tucson mom Rachel Scholes stopped to help a homeless woman on the side of the road, she didn’t know what to do next. Years later, she learned that her small act of kindness had changed a life forever. This heartwarming true story reminds us that no act of service is wasted even when it feels small or inconvenient. This episode is part of the “Light the World” initiative, a global invitation from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to spread light and serve others during the holiday season. Learn more and find ways you can serve at https://www.lighttheworld.org/. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/12/i-picked-up-stranger-and-it-changed.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:11 Light the World 00:40 Rachel's Story: An Ordinary Morning in Tucson 01:30 Meeting Jackie 03:01 Bringing Jackie Home 09:15 The Unexpected Reunion 13:20 Reflections on Service and Faith 16:03 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/edb4ebe2-9929-4a5e-8a06-ad64d758752e edb4ebe29929-4a5e-8a06-ad64d758752e Wed, 03 Dec 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1008 full 2025 48 This week, we’re sharing something a little different on Uncomfy. Our host, Julie Rose, joins Michael Lee on his podcast When We Disagree—a show about arguments, why we have them, and what they teach us about ourselves. In this conversation, Julie opens up about one of her deepest regrets: a long-running disagreement with her late mother over what news she watched. It’s a raw, personal reflection on how our emotions can block us from seeing the people we love with compassion and curiosity. Listen to more episodes of When We Disagree - https://whenwedisagree.buzzsprout.com/2311101 Connect with Julie on social media - https://linktr.ee/i_am_julie_rose CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction to Uncomfy and When We Disagree 04:02 Julie's Story – A Disagreement with Her Late Mother 12:01 Reflecting on Regrets and Lessons Learned 22:42 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/22b54590-c2a3-4787-8daf-c9dd364abe61 22b54590c2a3-4787-8daf-c9dd364abe61 Wed, 26 Nov 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1425 full 2025 47 Is it possible to keep heated political debates from devolving into name calling and ugliness? In this episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose sits down with Idaho public education Alexis Morgan. Morgan shares how The Dignity Index reshaped her approach to conflict—especially during Idaho’s heated debate over a controversial school voucher law. From moderating tense town halls to facing opponents in court, Alexis opens up about the emotional toll of advocacy, how she bridges divides without backing down, and why she believes dignity isn’t just a tool but a mindset. In this episode: - The Idaho school voucher fight and what it reveals about political division - How The Dignity Index helps people disagree without dehumanizing - Real-world examples of turning tension into understanding - Why treating opponents with respect might be the strongest strategy of all Alexis Morgan is former president of the Idaho state PTA and host of the Purple Zone podcast. Learn more about The Dignity Index: https://dignity.us Listen to The Purple Zone: https://www.thealexismorgan.com/the-purple-zone Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/11/fighting-for-what-you-want-without.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro 00:51 The Heated Debate on Idaho's School Voucher Law 01:23 Introducing Alexis Morgan 01:57 Uncomfy Moment at a Town Hall Meeting 05:21 Handling Conflict with Dignity 07:49 Discovering The Dignity Index 14:23 Applying Dignity in Advocacy 18:39 Outro and Additional Resources https://www.byuradio.org/0681f3c6-362d-480d-a55f-87b2af046fd7 0681f3c6362d-480d-a55f-87b2af046fd7 Wed, 19 Nov 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1192 full 2025 46 What if you could disagree with someone — even someone who attacks your beliefs — without losing your cool or your dignity? Tim Shriver, chairman of Special Olympics International and co-creator of The Dignity Index, joins host Julie Rose to unpack how contempt creeps into our conversations and how to replace it with curiosity, humility, and respect. Together they explore: - What “The Dignity Index” is and how it evaluates our dialogue - Why we often find contempt hiding inside ourselves - How to respond with dignity when someone lashes out - Why kindness isn’t weakness but power Learn more about The Dignity Index: https://www.dignity.us Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/11/can-we-disagree-without-contempt-tim.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Tim Shriver: Special Olympics and The Dignity Index 03:48 Understanding The Dignity Index Scale 07:51 The Power of Words and Dignity 08:51 Responding to Personal Attacks with Dignity 13:54 Changing the Culture of Contempt 17:21 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/8057678f-52c4-43a8-96a1-ec29740e91cf 8057678f52c4-43a8-96a1-ec29740e91cf Wed, 12 Nov 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1132 full 2025 45 What does it really take to make your voice heard in Congress? In this episode, Host Julie Rose talks with Sam Daley-Harris, founder of RESULTS and Civic Courage, and Jay Butera, the citizen advocate who helped create the bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus in Congress. Jay shares how he spent three years hearing “no” before finally convincing one Republican member of Congress to say “yes” to working across the aisle on climate change. Sam explains how transformational advocacy—showing up, building trust, and listening deeply—can turn ordinary citizens into powerful changemakers. Sam’s book, Reclaiming Our Democracy: Every Citizen's Guide to Transformational Advocacy - https://reclaimingourdemocracy.com/ Get in touch with Sam – https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdCQuqj-4O2eh4Sfy_E-dfVntbPlqg1A4T4oQ8E2J0nuZbD-w/viewform Climate Solutions Caucus - https://climatesolutionscaucus-garbarino.house.gov/ Top of Mind episode on what to do if you’re feeling unheard by Congress - https://www.byuradio.org/feeling-unheard-by-congress-heres-what-you-need-to-know Subscribe for more stories about growth, discomfort, and courage! Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/11/how-one-citizen-got-congress-to-work.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Sam Daley-Harris and Jay Butera 01:14 The Birth of the Climate Solutions Caucus 02:07 Challenges and Breakthroughs in Advocacy 05:33 Building Relationships in Congress 08:09 The Turning Point: Congressman Curbelo's Involvement 12:06 Impact and Reflections on Advocacy 17:49 Final Thoughts and Encouragement https://www.byuradio.org/96bcb02a-3889-4be6-b541-ea01d34f36ae 96bcb02a3889-4be6-b541-ea01d34f36ae Wed, 05 Nov 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1272 full 2025 44 What happens when you walk across America with nothing but a backpack, a mandolin, and a sign that says, “Walking to Listen”? Host Julie Rose sits down with author and restorative practices consultant Andrew Forsthoefel to explore the power of vulnerability, the discomfort of rejection, and the surprising beauty of human connection. Andrew shares stories from his 4,000-mile journey — from receiving a knife and a warning not to trust anyone, to being invited into a forest camp by strangers offering cookies and apple juice. He reflects on how discomfort can be a gateway to growth, and how listening can be a radical act of love. Andrew now works with public schools to lead restorative listening circles, helping students and educators build trust, navigate conflict, and foster belonging through vulnerability. Learn more about Andrew’s work and writing at https://littlecourtyard.substack.com. LISTENER SURVEY - https://forms.cloud.microsoft/r/yi9fSNB8NG Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/10/he-walked-4000-miles-across-america.html What does vulnerability mean to you? Have you ever leaned into discomfort and found something powerful on the other side? Share your story with us at uncomfy@byu.edu or on Instagram @uncomfy.podcast. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:36 Meet Andrew Forsthoefel: Walking to Listen 01:06 The Journey Begins: Early Encounters 02:16 Lessons from the Road: Trust and Vulnerability 06:58 Facing Rejection and Hostility 12:13 Special Request: Listener Survey 12:41 A Society That Respects Vulnerability 14:30 Restorative Listening Circles in Schools 19:56 Conclusion 20:57 Special Request Reminder https://www.byuradio.org/d4de7b42-2d6d-44a3-8f8f-c27979c6c116 d4de7b422d6d-44a3-8f8f-c27979c6c116 Wed, 29 Oct 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1289 full 2025 43 When Anne Abel hit an all-time low at 59, she never expected a Bruce Springsteen concert to change her life. After years of battling severe recurrent depression and losing her memory to electroconvulsive therapy, Anne found a spark of hope in Springsteen — a spark that led her to travel alone to Australia for eight concerts in five cities. That trip became the start of a new life filled with courage, creativity, and connection. Now at 72, Anne is a storyteller, author, and social media creator with nearly a million followers, inspiring others to keep going when life feels impossible. Learn more about Anne’s new memoir, “High Hopes,” and her other work: https://anneabelauthor.com. Follow Anne on social media (@annesimaabel): https://linktr.ee/anneabel How do you handle the self-critical voices in your head? Or what’s something scary you’ve done lately that took real courage? We’d love to hear from you! Share your thoughts in the comments, email us at uncomfy@byu.edu, or connect with us on social media. LISTENER SURVEY - https://forms.cloud.microsoft/r/yi9fSNB8NG Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/10/how-bruce-springsteen-saved-my-life.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Anne Abel 01:41 The Life-Changing Bruce Springsteen Concert 03:31 A Journey to Australia: Finding Hope 05:12 Daily Struggles and Coping Mechanisms 6:48 Midroll for Listener Survey 7:16 Challenging Self-Critical Voices 12:35 The Power of Storytelling and Social Media 17:45 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/57a2ebc0-d83c-4f66-8f54-b1bfd4d5976f 57a2ebc0d83c-4f66-8f54-b1bfd4d5976f Wed, 22 Oct 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1163 full 2025 42 Should politics be off-limits in church? Reverend Clay Stauffer doesn’t think so. Two months after a member of his congregation was killed in The Covenant School shooting, Rev. Stauffer invited his community to gather in their sanctuary for a discussion about gun violence — a conversation most churches would rather avoid. Host Julie Rose talks with him about what compelled him to do it, why he believes churches should be “big tents” where people with different views can still talk and stay connected, and how avoiding politics in church might actually make divisions worse. They also explore why people of faith might be especially equipped to lead with empathy and peace. Clay Stauffer is the senior minister at Woodmont Christian Church in Nashville, professor of moral leadership at Vanderbilt University, and author of “What the World Needs Now: Virtue and Character in an Age of Chaos.” Learn more about Dr. Stauffer’s work at https://claystauffer.com/. What do you think? Should faith and politics mix or stay separate? Tell us in the comments, connect with us on social media, or share your thoughts at uncomfy@byu.edu. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/10/should-political-conversations-be.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:44 Meet Reverend Clay Stauffer 01:13 The Role of Church in Political Conversations 02:34 Addressing Political Violence and Incivility 06:15 Gun Violence and Community Safety 08:59 The Intersection of Faith and Politics 10:58 The Rise of Political Partisanship 12:58 Finding Solutions in Faith 14:11 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/e46ca999-6ac7-44c8-8fae-33362ae89fda e46ca9996ac7-44c8-8fae-33362ae89fda Wed, 15 Oct 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1000 full 2025 41 Have you ever struggled to be understood? Matt Maxey spent most of his childhood trying to fit into the hearing world. He went to speech therapy, avoided sign language, and thought leaving Deaf culture behind was the only way to succeed. But when he showed up at Gallaudet University — the country’s only Deaf university — he suddenly found himself in a place where everyone expected him to use ASL, a language he didn’t even know, and many labelled him as an outsider. Instead of giving up, Matt flipped that struggle into his purpose. He went from resisting sign language to becoming one of the most well-known ASL music interpreters in the world. As the founder of DEAFinitely Dope, he’s brought hip-hop to Deaf and hard-of-hearing audiences, toured with Chance the Rapper, and even interpreted at the 2025 Super Bowl halftime show with Kendrick Lamar. Matt Maxey’s organization, DEAFinitely Dope - https://deafinitelydope.org/ Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/10/becoming-hip-hops-biggest-sign-language.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:40 Meet Matt Maxey: Founder of DEAFinitely Dope 01:12 Matt's Journey with Sign Language 04:14 Challenges and Acceptance at Gallaudet University 07:53 Breaking Barriers with Music Interpretation 11:41 Collaborating with Chance The Rapper 14:36 Impact and Future Goals 16:12 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/eee293c9-a280-45f6-a945-44e228d5e222 eee293c9a280-45f6-a945-44e228d5e222 Wed, 08 Oct 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1102 full 2025 40 What happens when a parent refuses to let a diagnosis define their child? TV news anchor Leland Vittert shares his story of growing up with autism, the “tough love” lessons his father insisted on, and how those moments of discomfort shaped the man and reporter he became. In this conversation with host Julie Rose, Vittert opens up about bullying, rejection, resilience, and the powerful role his father played in teaching him to adapt to the world rather than expecting the world to adapt to him. Leland Vittert is the Chief Washington Anchor at NewsNation and host of “On Balance with Leland Vittert.” Before joining NewsNation, he spent a decade as a foreign correspondent and anchor at Fox News. His new memoir is "Born Lucky: A Dedicated Father, A Grateful Son, and My Journey with Autism," available now https://www.harpercollinsfocus.com/harper-horizon/born-lucky/. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/10/growing-up-with-autism-and-fathers.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:40 Meet Leland Vittert 01:38 The Role of a Dedicated Father 02:31 Facing Bullying and Social Challenges 03:34 Early Signs and Diagnosis 05:30 Overcoming Social Struggles 11:34 The Impact of Autism on Journalism 14:19 Reflections and Final Thoughts https://www.byuradio.org/5c7a42d4-df3e-4fe3-9a7c-76c0ee84bda6 5c7a42d4df3e-4fe3-9a7c-76c0ee84bda6 Wed, 01 Oct 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1023 full 2025 39 “People don't actually follow outrage; what they follow is what is unique and different.” Host Julie Rose talks with Manu Meel, co-founder and CEO of BridgeUSA, about how a new generation of college students is challenging the outrage economy, especially in the wake of the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk. Meel explains that while conflict and violence often dominate headlines, the real counterculture movement is people hungry for respectful dialogue and pluralism. He argues that listening itself has become a radical act, one that could reshape democracy by empowering the “silent majority” to push back against polarization. Manu’s organization, BridgeUSA – https://bridgeusa.org/ Manu’s podcast, The Hopeful Majority – https://www.thehopefulmajority.com/ Don’t forget to subscribe for more conversations that challenge, stretch, and inspire. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/09/political-violence-and-power-of.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:46 Introducing Manu Meel and BridgeUSA 01:10 Discussing the Assassination of Charlie Kirk 02:28 The Mission of BridgeUSA 03:23 Challenges and Critiques of Bridging Efforts 06:30 Outrage vs. Dialogue in the Attention Economy 07:40 The Viral Impact of Constructive Dialogue 11:16 Building a Culture of Pluralism on Campus 15:49 Empowering the Silent Majority 18:44 Conclusion and Call to Action https://www.byuradio.org/e28298bb-23ba-4585-ae6d-94d051091e99 e28298bb23ba-4585-ae6d-94d051091e99 Wed, 24 Sep 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1252 full 2025 38 “There is another way.” Julie Rose sits down with Sulaiman Khatib, two-time Noble Peace Prize nominee and co-founder of Combatants for Peace. As a teenager, Khatib, a Palestinian, was imprisoned for attacking Israeli soldiers. But behind bars, he discovered the power of nonviolent resistance, studying the works of Gandhi, Mandela, and Martin Luther King Jr. Today, he works side by side with Israelis to build trust, tell hard truths, and imagine a future of collective liberation for Israelis and Palestinians. With the conflict in Gaza entering its second year, Sulaiman Khatib’s story is a rare glimpse of hope. Sulaiman’s organization, Combatants for Peace – https://www.cfpeace.org/ New documentary featuring Combatants for Peace, “There is Another Way” – https://www.thereisanotherwayfilm.com/ Subscribe to Uncomfy for more stories of people leaning into life’s hardest, most uncomfortable moments. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/09/from-prison-to-peace-sulaiman-khatibs.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:55 Meet Sulaiman Khatib 02:20 Life in Prison and Embracing Non-Violence 04:18 Founding Combatants for Peace 05:30 Building Trust and Overcoming Barriers 06:49 The Power of Storytelling 08:28 Combatants for Peace: Actions and Impact 10:42 Hope for Collective Liberation 16:24 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/0220e25d-3aeb-4bf9-ad1f-12ad8c7fc27e 0220e25d3aeb-4bf9-ad1f-12ad8c7fc27e Wed, 17 Sep 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1067 full 2025 37 “I had a need to tell him how I felt. I wanted him to feel some of my pain.” Amanda Carrasco, restorative justice advocate and author of "Becoming the Brave One: My Journey to Justice," shares her story of choosing to have a restorative justice meeting with the man who killed her closest friend, Susan, who had taken Amanda in as a teen and become like a sister to her. In this powerful conversation with host Julie Rose, Amanda explains what restorative justice really is, why it’s not “soft on crime,” and how the process helped her release fear and reclaim her voice. Learn more about Amanda’s work and new memoir - https://amandacarrasco.com/ Check out the “Top of Mind” episode on the purpose of prisons and their role in the justice system - https://www.byuradio.org/1267d7ae-9f9b-48f8-b005-b7814846ccb6/top-of-mind-with-julie-rose-what-is-the-purpose-of-prison Share your Uncomfy story with us - uncomfy@byu.edu Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/09/sitting-down-with-my-best-friends.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:42 Meet Amanda Carrasco: Restorative Justice Advocate 00:57 Understanding Restorative Justice 01:46 Amanda's Personal Story: A Journey Through Pain 05:06 The Restorative Justice Meeting: Preparation and Experience 08:12 The Impact of the Meeting: Fear, Healing, and Forgiveness 12:47 Rethinking Justice: Beyond Punishment 15:40 A Vision for Restorative Justice 17:44 Reflecting on Justice and Healing 18:09 Outro and Podcast Recommendation https://www.byuradio.org/e213c8a3-4631-4af6-9fe8-4d12ba12c7e1 e213c8a34631-4af6-9fe8-4d12ba12c7e1 Wed, 10 Sep 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1197 full 2025 36 What makes someone fit to parent? In this episode of Uncomfy, writer Jessica Slice shares her story of becoming disabled at 28, learning to let go of perfectionism, and eventually embracing motherhood in her own way. Jessica talks about the obstacles she and her husband faced while trying to become foster parents, how she adapted parenting to her body, and why disability doesn’t equal tragedy. Check out more of Jessica’s work - https://www.jessicaslice.com/ Jessica’s latest book, Unfit Parent: A Disabled Mother Challenges an Inaccessible World - https://www.jessicaslice.com/books Subscribe to Uncomfy for more honest conversations every Wednesday. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/09/how-disability-made-me-better-parent.html CHAPTERS 0:00 Introduction 0:34 Meet Jessica Slice 1:40 Becoming Disabled at 28 3:33 From Perfectionism to Parenthood 5:45 Finding Joy Within Limits 7:40 Being Better Prepared for Parenthood 9:36 Challenges with Becoming Foster Parents 12:04 Bringing Baby K Home 14:00 Parenting Adaptations 16:28 Rethinking Disability and Parenting 18:43 Closing Reflections https://www.byuradio.org/4ae51911-928e-4a36-b385-8b077ca5a121 4ae51911928e-4a36-b385-8b077ca5a121 Wed, 03 Sep 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1219 full 2025 35 What if your parents didn’t believe your life’s work was a priority issue? Planet Reimagined’s Caleb Johnson knows what that’s like. Growing up in a conservative evangelical family, climate change wasn’t exactly dinner table conversation. But a wildfire that came to their doorstep, and later losing their fire insurance, changed everything. In this episode of Uncomfy, Caleb shares how empathy helped him bridge that divide, why local stories matter more than abstract science, and how his work at Planet Reimagined uses concerts (yes, concerts!) to spark real climate action. Learn more about Planet Reimagined - https://www.planetreimagined.com/ Share your own “Uncomfy” story – uncomfy@byu.edu Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/08/how-concerts-can-turn-fans-into.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:45 Meet Caleb Johnson 01:03 The Intersection of Music and Climate Activism 02:51 Bridging Climate Divides with Family 06:39 Empathy in Climate Conversations 09:46 Planet Reimagined: From Understanding to Action 10:44 Amplify: Turning Concerts into Climate Action 14:58 Success Stories and Future Goals 18:21 Conclusion and Additional Resources https://www.byuradio.org/7215ba1b-2ee9-4faf-9fef-617f0a39aff4 7215ba1b2ee9-4faf-9fef-617f0a39aff4 Wed, 27 Aug 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1225 full 2025 34 What happens when love crosses the political divide? Host Julie Rose sits down with “Band of Brothers” writer and producer Erik Bork to talk about his directorial debut, “The Elephant in the Room” — a romantic comedy where a Liberal and a Trump voter fall for each other. Inspired by Erik’s real-life friendships and fueled by a desire to explore America’s deepening polarization, this episode dives into the uncomfortable but necessary conversations around politics, relationships, and empathy. Check out “The Elephant in the Room,” available to rent digitally now - https://www.elephantintheroomfilm.com/ Are you in a mixed marriage of political ideology? Tell us about it – uncomfy@byu.edu Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/08/band-of-brothers-writer-tackles-love.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Episode Introduction 01:12 Introducing “The Elephant in the Room” 01:28 Inspiration Behind the Film 05:48 Challenges of Writing Cross-Partisan Characters 08:34 Balancing Perspectives in the Film 14:01 Hopes and Takeaways from the Film 15:54 Conclusion and Call to Action https://www.byuradio.org/6656d35f-6b2e-4602-9332-2d97e06ee371 6656d35f6b2e-4602-9332-2d97e06ee371 Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1053 full 2025 33 “We're not moving on — we're moving forward.” In this touching episode of Uncomfy, grief coach Melissa Bottorff-Arey opens up to host Julie Rose about losing her 21-year-old son Alex to suicide, and why she chose to name it in his obituary. Melissa shares how stigma, silence, and misunderstanding compound the pain of suicide loss, especially for mothers. She explains how simply showing up, even when you don't know what to say, can make all the difference, and how separating a person from the way they died can be a crucial part of healing. Melissa’s website and podcast, The Leftover Pieces - https://www.theleftoverpieces.com/ If you or someone you love is struggling, please reach out. Call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, free & available 24/7. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/08/the-pain-of-suicide-loss-and-power-of.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Content Warning 00:25 Introduction 01:07 Meet Melissa Bottorff-Arey 01:21 Discussing Suicide Openly 04:20 Misconceptions About Suicide 08:19 Normalizing Suicidality 10:40 Supporting Grieving Mothers 13:15 Alex's Legacy 14:37 Conclusion and Resources https://www.byuradio.org/c7eb2186-c950-4b40-b85c-232786a3b14e c7eb2186c950-4b40-b85c-232786a3b14e Wed, 13 Aug 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 989 full 2025 32 When was the last time you did a small act of kindness for someone else? In this episode of Uncomfy, award-winning journalist Nicole Karlis shares the surprising story that inspired her book, Your Brain on Altruism: The Power of Connection and Community During Times of Crisis. What began as an unusual, uncomfortable challenge from a Vedic astrologer in India turned into a life-changing exploration of how serving others impacts our mental, emotional, and even physical health. Learn more about Nicole’s book – https://www.nicolemkarlis.com Has someone shown you a little kindness lately? Share this episode with them! Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/08/why-small-acts-of-kindness-matter-more.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:45 Meet Nicole Karlis: Journalist and Author 01:05 The Origin Story: A Journey in Rishikesh 02:05 The Prescription: Acts of Kindness 04:18 Exploring the Science of Altruism 07:00 The Benefits of Small Acts of Kindness 10:27 Imagining a Caring Community 11:51 Conclusion and Call to Action https://www.byuradio.org/6aec6519-f48b-478c-b87c-ef5f49c53ab7 6aec6519f48b-478c-b87c-ef5f49c53ab7 Wed, 06 Aug 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 811 full 2025 31 Why do so many patients feel dismissed by their doctors? In this episode of Uncomfy, orthopedic surgeon, podcast host, and FeelBetr founder Dr. Erin Nance pulls back the curtain on what really happens when doctors get it wrong and why it’s more common than we’d like to believe. From unconscious bias and misdiagnoses to the fear of admitting mistakes, Dr. Nance shares a rare, insider perspective on the discomfort many doctors face and the harm it can cause. She uncovers uncomfortable truths about the medical system, how patients can advocate for themselves, and why humility might be the most powerful medical tool we have. More from Dr. Erin Nance: Social media – https://www.instagram.com/doctorerinnance/ (Instagram) https://www.tiktok.com/@littlemissdiagnosed (Tik Tok) Book, Little Miss Diagnosed: A Surgeon’s Guide to Mending Bones and Breaking Rules – https://www.harpercollins.com/products/little-miss-diagnosed-erin-nance-md Podcast, The Medical Detectives – https://www.themedicaldetectivespodcast.com/ Health-focused social media platform, FeelBetr – https://www.feelbetr.health/ Have you chosen to own up to a mistake lately? Share your story with us - uncomfy@byu.edu Subscribe to Uncomfy for more powerful conversations! Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/07/your-doctor-might-be-wrong-what-can-you.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:41 Introducing Dr. Erin Nance 01:06 Doctors Make Mistakes: Acknowledging Human Error 02:36 A Personal Story of Bias in Medicine 05:16 Addressing Bias and Improving Patient Care 08:02 The Role of Social Media in Medical Awareness 09:33 Defensive Medicine and Patient Trust 11:52 FeelBetr: A Platform for Health Literacy 14:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts https://www.byuradio.org/2381a641-90ae-465e-8542-2d79cf03048c 2381a64190ae-465e-8542-2d79cf03048c Wed, 30 Jul 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 979 full 2025 30 Why are Americans so uncomfortable around sadness and grief? Cultural psychologist Matthew Whoolery has lived and taught all over the world—from Egypt to India to Bulgaria—and he’s learned something surprising: in many cultures, emotional pain is shared, not hidden. In this episode of Uncomfy, Professor Whoolery chats with host Julie Rose about the time his Egyptian students cried with him after his father died and why their immediate response of closeness and community shocked his American sensibilities. He shares how our Western obsession with individualism can make grief worse and what we can learn from other cultures about caring for others in times of need. Matthew Whoolery’s most recent TEDx Talk, “We Are Not Okay” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOBkk3EU0_8 Matthew Whoolery’s Substack - https://substack.com/@culturalpsychologist Share this episode with someone who showed up for you when you needed them! Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/07/what-american-culture-gets-wrong-about.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Cultural Differences in Handling Grief 01:11 Personal Stories of Grief 02:44 Cultural Scripts and Empathy 04:16 Impact of Cultural Differences 06:04 Radical Empathy and Connection 14:34 Practical Steps to Support Others 16:34 Conclusion and Call to Action https://www.byuradio.org/ed5fddcb-dc80-4a1d-9404-e0d9b22bf0ac ed5fddcbdc80-4a1d-9404-e0d9b22bf0ac Wed, 23 Jul 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1099 full 2025 29 Gun safety advocate, documentarian, and author Heidi Yewman sits down with host Julie Rose to talk about the most uncomfortable question she ever asked: “Do you have guns in your home, and are they locked up?” After her former teacher and coach was killed in the Columbine High School massacre, Heidi turned her grief into action. In this episode of Uncomfy, she shares how asking the right question could prevent tragedy, what she learned from interviewing people gun owners and who pulled the trigger, and why empathy—not judgment—is the key to meaningful conversations around guns in America. Heidi’s documentary, “Behind the Bullet” – https://heidiyewman.com/behind-the-bullet/ Heidi’s upcoming memoir, “Dumb Girl: A Journey from Childhood Abuse to Gun Control Advocacy” (August 19, 2025) – https://heidiyewman.com/dumb-girl/ Heidi’s website – https://heidiyewman.com/ Got a story of your own uncomfortable question? Email us - uncomfy@byu.edu Subscribe to Uncomfy for more challenging but inspiring conversations. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/07/the-most-uncomfortable-question-i-ever.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Heidi Yewman 01:27 Columbine and Gun Safety Advocacy 02:21 The Asking Saves Kids Campaign 03:38 The First Time Asking About Guns 04:19 Strategies for Asking About Gun Safety 06:50 The Importance of Gun Safety Conversations 08:01 Behind the Bullet 10:47 Empathy and Understanding in the Gun Conversation 14:11 Conclusion and Call to Action https://www.byuradio.org/4e67c1f3-8891-4d6e-acf9-42dae562f003 4e67c1f38891-4d6e-acf9-42dae562f003 Wed, 16 Jul 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 948 full 2025 28 Former firefighter Chris Fields became the face of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing when a photo of him carrying a dying infant from the rubble was seen around the world. But behind that iconic image was a man carrying the weight of years of unprocessed trauma. In this powerful episode of Uncomfy, Chris opens up about what it was really like to serve as a first responder for over 30 years—from his first harrowing call to the mass casualty event that nearly broke him. He shares the long, painful journey through PTSD, addiction, and ultimately, healing, with Chris now working to help other first responders navigate their own trauma before it's too late. Resources mentioned: Trauma Behind the Badge - https://www.traumabehindthebadge.us/ Survive First - https://www.survivefirst.us/ Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (US) - Call or text 988 Share your thoughts - uncomfy@byu.edu Subscribe to Uncomfy for more conversations that challenge us to grow. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/07/carrying-weight-first-responders.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:47 Meet Chris Fields: A Firefighter's Journey 04:59 The 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing 06:34 The Iconic Photo 08:52 The Long Road to Healing: PTSD and Seeking Help 12:19 Finding Purpose: Helping Others Through Trauma 17:16 Oklahoma First Responders Wellness Division 19:06 Resources and Final Thoughts https://www.byuradio.org/53699940-b014-4ab3-b398-9a82459a0bc7 53699940b014-4ab3-b398-9a82459a0bc7 Wed, 09 Jul 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1296 full 2025 27 What would it look like to dance in the discomfort zone? In this episode of Uncomfy, Anne Bonney—keynote speaker, self-proclaimed “discomfort enthusiast,” marathoner, and podcaster—joins host Julie Rose for a conversation about how choosing discomfort helped her transform her life. From quitting her teaching job to work with sea lions, to running marathons on all seven continents, Anne shares unforgettable stories of risk, resilience, and trusting yourself through uncertainty. Anne Bonney’s website - https://yourchangespeaker.com/ What’s a recent uncomfortable moment that helped you grow? Share your story – uncomfy@byu.edu. Subscribe for more episodes of Uncomfy — real stories that challenge, uplift, and push us just outside our comfort zones. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/07/discomfort-is-her-superpower-heres-why.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:40 Meet Anne Bonney: Discomfort Enthusiast 01:07 Anne's Uncomfortable Upbringing 02:34 From Teacher to Seal Trainer 05:38 The Value of Discomfort 08:17 Marathon Adventures 11:59 Interpersonal Challenges 16:52 Daily Practices for Embracing Discomfort 17:47 Conclusion and Next Steps https://www.byuradio.org/6d3bd718-1e66-408e-87a0-48b51b1fce1f 6d3bd7181e66-408e-87a0-48b51b1fce1f Wed, 02 Jul 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1171 full 2025 26 Why do we build walls—emotional, social, ideological—and what would it take to break them down? In this thought-provoking episode of Uncomfy, anthropologist Anand Pandian joins host Julie Rose to explore the infrastructure of discomfort in America. Drawing from his new book, “Something Between Us: The Everyday Walls of American Life and How to Take Them Down,” Pandian recounts stories from his journey across America, including attending a Trump victory rally as a liberal, or choosing to reconnect with a conservative childhood friend. These experiences reveal how fear and familiarity shape our comfort zones and what happens when we choose to step beyond them. You can check out Anand Pandian’s book, “Something Between Us,” here: https://www.sup.org/books/anthropology/something-between-us What walls have you built in your own life? And what might happen if you dared to peek over them? Share your story at uncomfy@byu.edu or connect on socials. And subscribe to Uncomfy for more conversations about growth, discomfort, and staying curious even when it’s difficult. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/06/the-walls-between-us-can-we-truly.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction to Uncomfy 01:29 Intro to Anand Pandian 01:48 Personal Reflections and Experiences 06:16 The Importance of Breaking Down Walls 09:46 Stories of Connection and Empathy 16:24 Organizing Against Division 19:23 Conclusion and Call to Action https://www.byuradio.org/5a0d6fd3-749d-476a-b7df-869f350d78a8 5a0d6fd3749d-476a-b7df-869f350d78a8 Wed, 25 Jun 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1270 full 2025 25 Becca Kearl had just moved to a new town when she decided to organize a public conversation about one of the most controversial topics: sex education. No formal training. No guarantees. Just a desire to understand her community better. What started as an ambitious idea turned into a surprising and powerful night of connection between people with deeply different beliefs. In this episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose talks with Becca about how that first event sparked her career in community dialogue, what makes conversations go well (or fall apart), and why your story is always more powerful than your opinion. Becca is now the executive director of Living Room Conversations, which provides free resources to help people host meaningful discussions across divides. Learn more at https://www.livingroomconversations.org. Got an Uncomfy story to share? We'd love to hear from you: uncomfy@byu.edu. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/06/how-to-have-conversations-that-actually.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:40 Meet Becca Kearl: The Power of Community Conversations 01:05 The First Big Conversation: Tackling Sex Education 03:25 Creating a Safe Space for Dialogue 07:25 The Impact of Personal Stories 09:48 Living Room Conversations: Tools and Framework 15:54 Encouragement and Resources for Starting Your Own Conversations 16:41 Conclusion and Next Steps https://www.byuradio.org/097bf5d9-403f-42f3-8043-a7d17d4aadc4 097bf5d9403f-42f3-8043-a7d17d4aadc4 Wed, 18 Jun 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1091 full 2025 24 Olivia Chadwick was a personal trainer. Garnet Morris was an entrepreneur looking for support as he tried to improve his health. Their early morning runs, often before sunrise in the middle of Canadian winter, became the start of a meaningful friendship and a journey neither of them expected. In this episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose talks with Olivia and Garnet about the habits that helped them both through difficult life transitions. Along the way, they discovered the value of coaching, friendship, and simply showing up. Olivia and Garnet are co-authors of the book, “17 Runs: The Unbeaten Path to Unlock Life’s True Potential.” Learn more about their book at https://17runs.com. Got an Uncomfy story to share? We'd love to hear from you: uncomfy@byu.edu Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/06/how-cold-early-morning-runs-led-to-life.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Olivia and Garnet 01:09 The Journey Begins: Training for Success 02:13 Overcoming Challenges and Building Habits 05:32 The Power of Coaching and Mentorship 07:35 Personal Stories of Transformation 13:54 Key Lessons and Final Thoughts 15:07 Conclusion and Next Steps https://www.byuradio.org/3a1df3b3-6ef2-41da-b924-ca547dcf7797 3a1df3b36ef2-41da-b924-ca547dcf7797 Wed, 11 Jun 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 991 full 2025 23 Dawn Prince-Hughes spent years misunderstood—ostracized, unhoused, and struggling to find her place in the world. Everything changed the day she met a 500-pound silverback gorilla. In this powerful episode of Uncomfy, Dr. Prince-Hughes shares her extraordinary story of being identified as autistic at age 36—and how her connection with gorillas helped her understand human connection, truth, and herself. She explores what it means to belong, to embrace differences, and to connect on a primal, honest level. Dr. Dawn Prince-Hughes is an anthropologist, primatologist, author, and co-chair of the Cultural Autism Studies Program at Yale. Read Dawn’s memoir: Songs of the Gorilla Nation: My Journey Through Autism – https://a.co/d/hwE3EBJ Learn more about the Cultural Autism Studies Program at Yale (CASY) – https://culturalautismstudiesatyale.space/ Share your Uncomfy story with us – uncomfy@byu.edu Subscribe/follow so you never miss an Uncomfy conversation! Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/06/how-gorillas-helped-me-understand.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:41 Understanding Autism: Statistics and Awareness 01:08 Meet Dawn Prince-Hughes: Anthropologist and Primatologist 01:46 Dawn's Journey: From Homelessness to Working with Gorillas 03:38 Lessons from Gorillas: Social Interactions and Humor 08:32 Identifying Autism: Dawn's Personal Experience 12:49 The Power of Cultural Belonging 15:40 Societal Changes for Autistic Individuals 17:23 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/955cab38-c462-4e3e-8452-403bfc48c48a 955cab38c462-4e3e-8452-403bfc48c48a Wed, 04 Jun 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1141 full 2025 22 What happens when the thing you’ve built your life around suddenly disappears? Greta Morgan, acclaimed singer-songwriter (The Hush Sound, Springtime Carnivore) and former touring member of Vampire Weekend, faced that terrifying question when she lost her singing voice due to Spasmodic Dysphonia, a rare neurological condition she suspects was triggered by long COVID. In this deeply personal episode of Uncomfy, Greta opens up about the shock of losing her vocal range, the identity crisis that followed, and the surprising way she found healing—not through medicine, but through solitude, storytelling, and a transformative silent retreat in Zion National Park. The Lost Voice by Greta Morgan is available now - https://m.cmpgn.page/QGMSs0 More from Greta - https://linktr.ee/gretamorgan Has discomfort ever helped you grow or change? Email us at uncomfy@byu.edu or find us on social media. We’d love to hear from you. Subscribe for more conversations that challenge and change us. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/she-lost-her-voice-then-she-found.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction: Embracing Discomfort 00:44 Meet Greta Morgan 01:20 The Lost Voice: A Life-Altering Diagnosis 06:44 Coping with Silence: A Journey to Zion 12:22 Rediscovering Creativity: Writing and Healing 14:51 Redefining Voice: Embracing Imperfection 20:08 Conclusion: Finding New Voices https://www.byuradio.org/53cafc57-1d6e-4563-ae5b-1aed03acde23 53cafc571d6e-4563-ae5b-1aed03acde23 Wed, 28 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1321 full 2025 21 On this special Memorial Day episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose sits down with retired U.S. Air Force Intelligence Officer Gary Zelinski, author of “A Walk Among Heroes: Searching for America’s Better Angels,” to discover the hidden stories buried at Arlington National Cemetery. From boxing legend Joe Louis to Audie Murphy’s unsung wife, Pamela Opal Lee, Zelinski shares the deeply personal journeys that led him to uncover the silent heroes of our nation’s military past—and why he believes the families of service members deserve our honor just as much as the fallen themselves. What does Memorial Day mean to you? Who are the heroes in your family? Tell us in the comments or email us at uncomfy@byu.edu. Get Gary's book, “A Walk Among Heroes: Searching for America’s Better Angels” - https://garyzelinski.com/books/ Check out Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind with Julie Rose - https://lnkfi.re/TopofMind Subscribe/follow for more conversations that challenge, inspire, and invite us to grow. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/the-hidden-heroes-of-arlington-and-what.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:44 Memorial Day and Arlington National Cemetery 01:13 Intro to Gary Zelinski: A Walk Among Heroes 01:28 Gary's Personal Connection to Arlington 03:56 Joe Louis: A Hero Beyond the Ring 06:51 The Story of Pamela Opal Lee 09:32 Honoring Military Families 11:11 Reflections on Memorial Day 14:44 Conclusion https://www.byuradio.org/313e6774-6cfb-40bd-bf12-9ef82307ecbb 313e67746cfb-40bd-bf12-9ef82307ecbb Wed, 21 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 974 full 2025 20 Why would someone willingly step into an uncomfortable conversation, especially with someone who’s hurt them deeply? In this episode of Uncomfy, author and meaningful work researcher Justin Jones-Fosu shares the moving story of confronting his absentee father—not to accuse, but to understand. What followed changed his identity, his peace of mind, and even his connection to his heritage. Justin’s book, I Respectfully Disagree: How to Have Difficult Conversations in a Divided World — https://workmeaningful.com/books/ Justin’s company, Work. Meaningful. — https://workmeaningful.com/ Have you stepped outside your circle of comfort lately? Tell us about it — uncomfy@byu.edu Subscribe for more thoughtful, real conversations that push boundaries and invite growth. Episode transcript - https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/i-forgave-my-absent-father-heres-why.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:45 The Impact of Avoidance 01:33 A Personal Story: Confronting My Father 03:59 The Concept of 'Taking the Exit' 05:24 The Journey to Understanding and Forgiveness 11:45 The Circles of Grace Challenge 15:06 Conclusion and Call to Action https://www.byuradio.org/accf8c15-99df-40c8-9542-b8a93489c771 accf8c1599df-40c8-9542-b8a93489c771 Wed, 14 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1022 full 2025 19 Sometimes the hardest stories are the ones we need to hear most. In this episode of Uncomfy, Dawn Peabody shares the unimaginable loss of her 2-year-old daughter, Maya, who died after being accidentally left in a hot car. Dawn opens up about how she and her husband faced the tragedy, how faith and forgiveness helped them survive, and why she now speaks out in hopes of saving lives. Dawn reminds us that even the most loving, attentive parents can fall victim to distraction—and that we all have a role to play in preventing similar heartbreak. Learn more about car safety advocacy: https://www.kidsandcars.org Share your own Uncomfy moments with us: uncomfy@byu.edu Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind with Julie Rose: https://lnkfi.re/TopofMind Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/a-parents-worst-nightmare-and-why-she.html Uncomfy is a BYUradio podcast hosted by journalist Julie Rose. https://www.byuradio.org/fa7ccef9-345d-4f17-871c-7655fdacd35b fa7ccef9345d-4f17-871c-7655fdacd35b Wed, 07 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 688 full 2025 18 What would you do if you had to start over in a new country, far from everything familiar? Amy Dott Harmer has spent a decade answering that question—not for herself, but for thousands of refugees in Utah. As Executive Director of Utah Refugee Connection, Amy shares what it's like to truly show up for people who have lost everything, and how dancing awkwardly in a circle of refugee women taught her one of her most important lessons about empathy, connection, and courage. In this episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose joins Amy Dott as she reflects on the joy and heartbreak of her work, the persistent misunderstandings around refugee, immigrant, and asylum status, and how, more and more, her efforts to serve and advocate have started to feel political in ways they didn’t before. Subscribe for more thought-provoking stories that challenge, inspire, and get a little Uncomfy. Learn more or get involved with Utah Refugee Connection: https://serverefugees.org Share your own “uncomfy” story at uncomfy@byu.edu Check out Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind with Julie Rose: https://lnkfi.re/TopofMind Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/04/dancing-in-discomfort-lessons-from.html CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:44 Meet Amy Dott Harmer: A Decade with Refugees 01:13 Dancing Out of the Comfort Zone 03:38 Building Connections and Understanding 05:21 The Role of Utah Refugee Connection 08:18 Challenges in a Politicized Climate 13:19 Personal Reflections and Broader Impact 15:52 Conclusion and Call to Action https://www.byuradio.org/96c9ed3f-bcb6-4f72-84c6-a81c5ae563e5 96c9ed3fbcb6-4f72-84c6-a81c5ae563e5 Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1065 full 2025 17 Born with life-threatening medical conditions and told he wouldn’t survive—let alone walk—James Dixon ultimately had his leg amputated as a child. But through relentless determination, deep faith, and his grandmother’s belief that he was Superman, he transformed what others saw as a disability into his greatest superpower. In this powerful episode of Uncomfy, James takes host Julie Rose through his incredible journey—from being called "crippled" to earning a Division I basketball scholarship and now changing lives as a motivational speaker and CEO of Absolute Motivation. He shares his path through loss, rejection, faith, resilience, and purpose—and how discomfort can lead to transformation. Content warning: this episode includes a story involving attempted suicide and medical trauma. It ends in hope, but please take care as you listen. James’s book, Absolute Motivation: Battle Tested Principles for Next-Level Living – https://a.co/d/6LFXg1b Follow James on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/absolutemotivationofficial Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind with Julie Rose - https://lnkfi.re/TopofMind Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/he-lost-his-leg-then-he-gained-his.html What’s the biggest challenge you’ve turned into purpose? Email us at uncomfy@byu.edu or connect with us on our socials! Uncomfy is a BYUradio podcast hosted by Julie Rose. https://www.byuradio.org/e598192c-e48a-4749-873b-3cbea9deb335 e598192ce48a-4749-873b-3cbea9deb335 Wed, 23 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1075 full 2025 16 "Why doesn’t God answer my prayers? Is God even real?" Especially around Easter, when faith is supposed to feel joyful and full, these questions can feel even heavier. In this special Easter episode, host Julie Rose speaks with Reverend Kyle Norman—Rector and Dean of St. Paul’s Anglican Cathedral and author of “Alive, Loved, and Free: Finding Jesus When Faith is Hard.” Together they talk through the hidden struggles of spiritual discouragement, doubt, and the quiet shame that can follow when life falls apart—especially for those who deeply believe. Kyle shares how his wife’s battle with cancer led him to some of the hardest faith questions of his life: “Is God judging my family? If we were better Christians, would this not have happened?” Julie and Kyle explore what it means to keep seeking God, even when He feels far away—and how Easter can be a time of renewed hope for those stuck in spiritual dry seasons. If you’ve ever felt like you're doing faith “wrong,” or wondered why prayer feels pointless, this conversation is for you. Learn more about Kyle's work, including his new book: https://revkylenorman.ca Share your “Uncomfy” story: uncomfy@byu.edu or @uncomfy.podcast on Instagram Listen to Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind with Julie Rose: https://lnkfi.re/TopofMind Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/is-god-even-listening-honest-easter.html https://www.byuradio.org/4893092a-22f6-48c9-b80f-50aaaa756df6 4893092a22f6-48c9-b80f-50aaaa756df6 Wed, 16 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1295 full 2025 15 What if a little financial discomfort today could buy you freedom tomorrow? Host Julie Rose talks with Shang Saavedra—founder of Save My Cents and author of Wealth is a Mindset—about how extreme frugality, mindset shifts, and some seriously uncomfortable choices helped her reach financial independence by age 31. Whether you're buried in money stress or just looking for more freedom, this episode is for you. Learn more: https://savemycents.com/ Wealth is a Mindset, available now: https://savemycents.com/book/ Follow Shang: https://www.instagram.com/savemycents/ Share your Uncomfy story: uncomfy@byu.edu Uncomfy is a BYUradio podcast hosted by Julie Rose. Also check out our sister show, Top of Mind with Julie Rose - https://lnkfi.re/TopofMind Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/the-power-of-saving-and-suffering.html CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction: 00:47 Meet Shang Saavedra: Financial Freedom Journey 01:04 Early Financial Struggles and Realizations 02:53 Extreme Frugality: Living on One Income 05:26 Challenges and Mishaps of Frugal Living 12:29 Shang's Turning Point: Toxic Work Environment 13:27 Achieving Financial Independence 14:39 Shang's Message: Financial Security for All 18:13 Faith and Wealth: A Christian Perspective 19:32 Final Thoughts and Resources https://www.byuradio.org/e45fd499-8af4-4970-9b1f-9aeaee0133d7 e45fd4998af4-4970-9b1f-9aeaee0133d7 Wed, 09 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1298 full 2025 14 Are you tired of not knowing who to trust in the news? In this episode of Uncomfy, journalist and Mo News founder Mosheh Oinounou opens up about why he walked away from a successful career in traditional news media—and what it takes to build trust in today’s broken media landscape. Mosheh shares some of the shortcomings of traditional media, the origin of Mo News during the pandemic, his reasons for now picking a side, and ways we can all stay informed without getting overwhelmed. What does it really mean to be non-partisan? Is it possible to fight the algorithm and still grow an audience? And how do we stay curious when the news makes us want to shut down? Connect with Mosheh Oinounou and Mo News: Instagram: https://instagram.com/mosheh Podcast: https://www.mo.news/podcast Website: https://mo.news More from Julie Rose: Podcast: Top of Mind with Julie Rose – Narrative deep dives into tough topics. Available on all major podcast apps. https://lnkfi.re/TopofMind Join the Conversation: What’s your most trusted news source? How do you break out of your media bubble? Let us know in the comments, on social media, or email uncomfy@byu.edu. Follow/subscribe to make sure you catch next week’s conversation. Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/he-left-mainstream-media-to-do-news.html Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 01:09 Meet Mosheh Oinounou: From Traditional News to Social Media 04:08 The Evolution of News Consumption 10:18 Balancing Bias and Fair Reporting 15:58 Advice for Informed Citizenship 20:30 Conclusion and Additional Resources https://www.byuradio.org/9820c714-dfe2-4c2e-80ae-bf4ff4964ec7 9820c714dfe2-4c2e-80ae-bf4ff4964ec7 Wed, 02 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1361 full 2025 13 What happens when two people on opposite sides of a heated debate come together? Mark Rosenberg, a gun violence research advocate and former CDC official, and the late Congressman Jay Dickey, a staunch NRA supporter, were once bitter enemies. Their clash over the Dickey Amendment, which halted federal funding for gun violence research, seemed insurmountable. Yet, through a series of candid conversations and shared personal experiences, they discovered common ground and mutual respect. This Uncomfy conversation was adapted from a recent episode we did on gun violence over on our other podcast, Top of Mind with Julie Rose, which you can check out here: https://www.byuradio.org/2ca1d0ad-385b-45f8-91ec-a88a2474c347/top-of-mind-with-julie-rose-what-a-surprising-friendship-can-teach-us-about-gun-violence-in-america Related Links Rosenberg/Dickey op-ed 2012 - https://web.archive.org/web/20120801190312/https:/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-wont-know-the-cause-of-gun-violence-until-we-look-for-it/2012/07/27/gJQAPfenEX_print.html Rosenberg/Dickey op-ed 2015 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/time-for-collaboration-on-gun-research/2015/12/25/f989cd1a-a819-11e5-bff5-905b92f5f94b_story.html 1993 CDC-funded study that prompted the Dickey Amendment - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199310073291506 Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/from-enemies-to-allies-mark-rosenberg.html Follow us on social media! Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/ Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:51 Meet Mark Rosenberg 01:24 The Feud with Congressman Jay Dickey 02:53 An Unexpected Meeting 04:40 Building an Unlikely Friendship 10:38 Lessons Learned and Shared 16:08 A Call for Unity and Hope 17:53 Conclusion and Further Listening https://www.byuradio.org/5a9a3393-b02c-4ea9-981e-757ef5c484f6 5a9a3393b02c-4ea9-981e-757ef5c484f6 Wed, 26 Mar 2025 06:00:00 GMT false 1180 full 2025 12 What if the stories we’re told about each other aren’t true? Therapist Traci Ruble doesn’t buy what the media tells her about people—so she took to the streets to find out for herself. She and a group of volunteers set up Sidewalk Talk, an experiment in radical listening: sitting in public spaces with a sign that says Free Listening and inviting strangers to share whatever’s on their minds. It’s raw, awkward, sometimes heartbreaking—but also unexpectedly hilarious and deeply human. In this episode, Traci shares what she’s learned from thousands of sidewalk conversations—how deep listening challenges assumptions, reveals the goodness in people, and even rewires the way we see the world. Related Links Sidewalk Talk website - https://www.sidewalk-talk.org/ Sidewalk Talk bus tour - https://www.sidewalk-talk.org/2025-listening-bus-tour Sidewalk Talk the Podcast - https://www.sidewalk-talk.org/podcast Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/challenging-stories-were-told-about.html Follow us on social media! 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Historian and bestselling author Jemar Tisby joins us to talk about the spirit of justice—that relentless, unshakable force that calls people to resist injustice, even when the road is long and exhausting. He shares the powerful experience of Myrlie Evers-Williams, a civil rights leader who never stopped pushing for accountability, even when her husband’s killer walked free for 30 years. We also explore the courage of Sister Thea Bowman, a Black Catholic nun who refused to shrink herself in spaces that weren’t built for her. For Jemar, the fight for justice isn’t just history—it’s alive in all of us today. But staying committed to that fight often means stepping into discomfort. He opens up about his own journey of faith, race, and resistance. Related Links Jemar Tisby’s new book, The Spirit of Justice: True Stories of Faith, Race, and Resistance – https://jemartisby.com/the-spirit-of-justice/ Jemar Tisby’s new children’s book, I Am the Spirit of Justice - https://www.zonderkidz.com/book/9780310145561/i-am-the-spirit-of-justice/ Jemar Tisby’s website - https://jemartisby.com/ Top of Mind episode on teaching kids about race - https://www.byutv.org/0c936fc0-94c9-428b-b147-b587ee5411e8/top-of-mind-with-julie-rose-common-ground-in-the-debate-over-teaching-kids-about-race-in-school Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/resisting-injustice-even-when-its.html Follow us on social media! 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From drafting op-eds to sitting down with legislators, she explains why the most effective advocates aren’t the loudest but the most persistent. Jennifer Walker Thomas is the co-executive director of MWEG, a nonpartisan, faith-based community of women that advocates for ethical government, and co-host of the Proclaim Peace podcast. Related Links MWEG website – https://www.mweg.org/ The Proclaim Peace podcast - https://www.mormonwomenforethicalgovernment.org/proclaim-peace MWEG Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mormonweg/ Top of Mind episode on activism - https://www.byuradio.org/2cd9f87f-8ec0-44bc-b750-3d80775728d2/top-of-mind-with-julie-rose-does-activism-work-being-a-social-activist-in-todays-world Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot.com/2025/05/how-to-stay-politically-engaged-when.html Follow us on social media! 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She opens up about the discomfort of going viral, the resilience it takes to navigate online discourse, and the philosophy that guides her: “Just do the next needed thing.” Whether she’s breaking down political complexities or mobilizing her followers to raise millions for medical debt relief, Sharon demonstrates how stepping into discomfort can lead to meaningful change. A former high school government teacher turned social media educator, Sharon McMahon is the author of The Small and the Mighty, a New York Times bestseller highlighting unsung heroes who shaped American history. She also hosts the popular podcast Here's Where It Gets Interesting, where she brings history to life with engaging storytelling and deep dives into civic topics. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive, you chose to lean into the discomfort? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! And if you enjoyed this episode, you should check out the conversation we had with Kurt Gray a few weeks ago on why we get so angry and what we can do about it - https://youtu.be/Hkzm9iQmAsk Related Links: Sharon McMahon’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sharonsaysso/ Sharon McMahon’s Book, The Small and the Mighty - https://sharonmcmahon.com/book Sharon McMahon’s Podcast, Here’s Where It Gets Interesting - https://sharonmcmahon.com/podcast Episode transcript: https://uncomfypodcastbyu.blogspot https://www.byuradio.org/8476ec82-cd34-4b5a-949f-2971b31350b6 8476ec82cd34-4b5a-949f-2971b31350b6 Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1586 full 2025 8 Aging is a natural part of life, but it can bring challenges—especially when it comes to caring for elderly loved ones. In this episode, Scottie Gassner reflects on how his relationship with his aging parents shifted after working with his longtime client, Dave, who started training with him at 79. Over the course of their 12 years together, Scottie saw firsthand the realities of aging—both the struggles and the small victories. That experience gave him a new perspective on what it means to grow older and helped him approach his parents with more patience and understanding. Julie and Scottie talk about the complexities of caring for aging parents, the importance of being present, and how small acts of compassion can make a big difference. Scottie also shares his approach to staying engaged and purposeful at any stage of life. Scottie Gassner is a personal trainer, life coach, and host of the podcast Just Be with Scottie G. 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What followed was an explosive confrontation—one fueled by outrage and the deep conviction that each party had been wronged. That heated moment didn’t just shake him—it sparked a career-long fascination with moral psychology. Why do we get so emotionally charged in moments of perceived injustice? And more importantly, how can we break through these cycles of outrage to find common ground? Gray, now a professor of psychology and neuroscience at the University of North Carolina and author of Outraged: Why We Fight About Morality and Politics and How to Find Common Ground, explores how our moral instincts shape our reactions—and how understanding them can help us bridge the divides that seem deeper than ever. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged, and instead of getting defensive, you chose to stick with the discomfort? We’d love to hear your story! Send it our way at uncomfy@byu.edu, or reach out on Instagram @uncomfy.podcast. And if this episode got you thinking, share it with a friend—you never know what kind of conversation it might spark! If you enjoyed this episode, you won’t want to miss another Uncomfy conversation where a car accident takes an unexpected turn, leading to an unlikely friendship. - https://youtu.be/zO6bQJ4M23M Related Links Gray’s book, Outraged: Why We Fight About Morality and Politics and How to Find Common Ground - https://outragedbook.com/ Gray's Website - https://www.kurtjgray.com/ Follow us on social media! Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/ Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast Threads - https://www.threa https://www.byuradio.org/87c42563-c28d-4865-ae8f-75e4ba93be93 87c42563c28d-4865-ae8f-75e4ba93be93 Wed, 12 Feb 2025 07:00:00 GMT false 1530 full 2025 6 How do we navigate life’s unexpected twists? For nationally recognized artist and educator James Rees, the answer lies in embracing discomfort and using creativity as a tool for growth. In this episode, Rees shares how his art explores themes of burdens, resilience, and support—and how one deeply moving moment at an art show changed his perspective on the power of connection and healing. When a woman purchased one of his pieces to honor her sister who died by suicide, Rees saw firsthand how art can give meaning to grief and transform pain into purpose. After 30 years of teaching and serving as a panelist for the National Endowment for the Arts, he reflects on the lessons he’s learned about courage, creativity, and the beauty of embracing uncertainty. Related Links James Rees’ website - https://www.jamesreesart.com James Rees’ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jamesreesart Follow us on social media! 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Kaitlyn Schiess is a theologian, podcast host, and author of The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where We Go From Here. She is currently pursuing a PhD in political theology at Duke Divinity School. Another Holy Post podcast regular, David French, was also on Uncomfy recently talking about being willing to admit you’re wrong. Check it out here - https://youtu.be/wD7V1_-0w2w Related Links Kaitlyn’s Website – https://kaitlynschiess.com/ Kaitlyn’s book, The Ballot and the Bible – https://kaitlynschiess.com/the-ballot-and-the-bible Kaitlyn’s podcasts - https://kaitlynschiess.com/podcasts Follow us on social media! 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Today, Holland and Silvers pride themselves on modeling disagreement as they "take a different approach to the news" to help Pantsuit Politics listeners feel more empowered and enga Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers are the hosts of the podcast Pantsuit Politics and co-authors of Now What? How to Move Forward When We Are Divided About Basically Everything. Related Links Pantsuit Politics website – https://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/ Pantsuit Politics Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/pantsuitpolitics/ Their book, Now What? How to Move Forward When We Are Divided About Basically Everything. - https://a.co/d/jbGCoas About the Podcast Uncomfy: Sticking With Moments That Challenge Us is a BYUradio podcast all about people leaning in to uncomfortable moments to grow stronger, communicate better, and bridge divides. If you’re seeking practical tools for navigating a polarized world, come join us! Hosted by journalist Julie Rose. Follow us on social media! 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Hélène Biandudi Hofer is a conflict navigator, storyteller, and co-founder of Good Conflict. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! Related Links Good Conflict website - https://www.thegoodconflict.com/ Good Conflict Master Class - https://www.thegoodconflict.com/master-class Good Conflict Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thegoodconflict/ Follow us on social media! 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Constance Scharff, dubbed the Indiana Jones of mental health research, travels the world learning from indigenous communities and recently spent a year visiting seven countries for her book on everyday bravery. She is also an author and the director of the Human Resilience Project. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! Related Links Constance Scharff’s website - https://www.constancescharff.com/ More on the Human Resilience Project - https://youtu.be/p0WbgrPErvo?feature=shared More info on somatic therapy - https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-is-somatic-therapy-202307072951 Follow us on social media! 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Bria Halama is a Catholic mental health counselor. Builders is a nonprofit equipping citizens globally to overcome toxic polarization to solve our toughest problems together. Citizen Solutions is a program of Builders that empowers ideologically diverse Americans to co-create state-level solutions to politicized issues suffering from hyper-partisan gridlock. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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In response, the other driver opened up in a completely unexpected way, transforming a tense encounter into a moment of connection and an unlikely friendship. Becca Obeng is the creator of Becoming Undaunted, a 100-day challenge where she takes on one uncomfortable task each day to build confidence and embrace growth. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! Related Links: Becoming Undaunted Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/becomingundaunted/ Becoming Undaunted website - https://www.becomingundaunted.com/ Becoming Undaunted Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/becomingundaunted Follow us on social media! 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Vanessa Otero is CEO and founder of Ad Fontes Media, known for its Media Bias Chart, which rates news outlets for bias and reliability. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! Related Links: Ad Fontes Media Website - https://adfontesmedia.com/ The Media Bias Chart - https://adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/ Vanessa Otero’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessaotero/ Follow us on social media! 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And he's used to sometimes getting things wrong, too. “At 55, I want to be a better person than I was when I was 35 or 25 or 15. So, if we're actually growing as human beings, we should be able to point back to multiple things that we concretely got wrong.” French shares the story of changing his mind on a hot button issue and telling the world about it in an article titled, “Why I Changed the Way I Write about Police Shootings.” He also offers insights on how to navigate the shame and embarrassment that can come when you have to admit you’re wrong. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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Fueled by this experience, Saad, a lifelong expat and CEO of Commence Games, created Commence Games, which designs card games for political engagement that are fun for all ages and perspectives. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? 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Rather than giving in to anger or excuses, Shawn chose to sit with his feelings of embarrassment, using the moment to learn and reassess his priorities. Shawn Tucker is a professor of Humanities at Elon University and author of several books, including Humility: An Approach. He listened to Uncomfy and reached out to us to share his story—and you can, too! Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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This encounter sparked a journey of self-reflection and learning, transforming his approach to dialogue with people he once saw as the enemy. Brian Parrish is host of the podcast Parrish the Thought. He listened to Uncomfy and reached out to us to share his story—and you can, too! We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? 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Would he choose to walk away? Nicholas Ma is the director of the new film, Leap of Faith, and producer of the award-winning documentary, Won’t You Be My Neighbor. He is also the son of world-renowned cellist, Yo-Yo Ma. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? 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David Kaufman is a Conservative political commentator from South Carolina who has participated in more Braver Angels Red/Blue one-on-one conversations than anyone else. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? 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We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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Saxman, who co-authored Being White Today: A Roadmap for a Positive Anti-racist Life, shares how this conversation sparked deeper self-awareness and shaped her path as a racial justice and equity advocate. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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Shupe, author of The Bathwater Brigade, shares the challenges of confronting his own biases and the surprising empathy that emerged from stepping outside his ideological bubble. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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This experience would shape her teaching methods and her approach to coaching, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, compassion, and critical thinking. Michaela Birdyshaw is a leadership and communication coach and host of the podcast, “And All the Things.” We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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Despite initial discomfort and assumptions based on political differences, Livingston, who serves as National Program Director for the One America Movement and co-founder of Black Girls Leadership Academy, chose to listen carefully and set her assumptions aside, leading to an unexpected realization of shared values. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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The unexpected critique forced Smith to confront her own assumptions and reconsider her approach. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast, and we’ll share it! 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As the discussion veered towards controversial topics, including political and social issues, Hendricks chose to engage with curiosity rather than defensiveness. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it! 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After suffering a dissociative episode, DaRosa made the life-changing decision to seek help, and it wasn’t until he sat across from a therapist for the first time that he began to finally share everything he’d been keeping inside. DaRosa shares how breaking his silence not only led to his healing but also empowered him to help others find their voices. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it!           From Survivor to Thriver Website – www.fromsurvivortothriver.com U-MOST - https://u-most.com/ Erik’s Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/skisherpa/ Follow us on social media!   Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/    Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast    X -  https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod    Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast https://www.byuradio.org/dffa966b-e191-46b4-9b7d-9b4d0d741989 dffa966be191-46b4-9b7d-9b4d0d741989 Wed, 21 Aug 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 1022 full 2024 9 When James Coan, a Liberal, decided to attend the Conservative Political Action Committee—one of the biggest conservative gatherings in the U.S.—his apprehension was high. Coan, co-founder and executive director of More Like Us, was on a quest to promote the idea that we are more similar than we think, despite our politically charged environment. But just showing up to the event wouldn't be enough. Coan was determined to face a task he found particularly daunting—engaging with conservative media personalities and pitching the mission of More Like Us. Initial interactions were tense and filled with uncertainty. Coan decided to stick with the discomfort. But would it pay off? We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it!       More Like Us Website – www.morelikeus.org Similarity Hub Website – allsides.com/similarity Follow us on social media!   Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/    Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast    X -  https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod    Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast https://www.byuradio.org/6c391a19-9e9b-4bd6-bec5-802d388fe848 6c391a199e9b-4bd6-bec5-802d388fe848 Wed, 14 Aug 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 906 full 2024 8 Just a few months after the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, the people of Newtown, CT, needed to decide what to do with the old school building. Rich Harwood, the president and founder of the Harwood Institute, was called in to help. Harwood questioned whether he was up to this enormous task, but ultimately accepted the assignment. But the complexity of making that decision was beyond what anyone could have imagined. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it!   The Harwood Institute - https://theharwoodinstitute.org/ “Enough. Time to Build.” 2024 Civic Campaign – https://theharwoodinstitute.org/build Richard Harwood’s LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardcharwood/ Follow us on social media!   Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/    Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/    Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast    X -  https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod    Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast https://www.byuradio.org/1417b9cd-8694-41da-b9cd-ae952f4c1830 1417b9cd8694-41da-b9cd-ae952f4c1830 Wed, 07 Aug 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 1272 full 2024 7 Meisha Lerato and her all-Black group of friends were relaxing at a hotel pool when a group of rambunctious boys began splashing and rough housing, disrupting their peace. Feeling disrespected and sensing racial undertones, Meisha decided to confront the white man supervising the boys. The encounter had the potential to escalate quickly. What happened ended up changing the trajectory of Meisha's life. Meisha Lerato is the founder of nonprofit I Am We Are. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it!      Meisha Lerato Instagram Profile - https://www.instagram.com/meishalerato/ I Am, We Are Instagram Profile - https://www.instagram.com/iamweareyouth/ I Am, We Are website - https://www.iamweareyouth.org/ Follow us on social media!   Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/  Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/ Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast   X -  https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast https://www.byuradio.org/5ab9c37c-69e4-418c-bc4c-2ecba506619c 5ab9c37c69e4-418c-bc4c-2ecba506619c Wed, 31 Jul 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 1060 full 2024 6 Preston Brightwell and Madeleine Jones, Field Directors at The Dignity Index, found themselves in a heated discussion over the use of a single word in their project's tagline—"patriotism." Preston, a conservative, and Madeleine, a liberal, discuss how their differing views on the term led to a moment of tension, assumptions, and eye-rolling that threatened to derail their project entirely. Hear them discuss how this disagreement ultimately became an opportunity to practice what they preach about dignity and curiosity. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it! The Dignity Index website – https://www.dignityindex.us/ Students For Dignity Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/studentsfordignity/ Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind - https://www.byuradio.org/topofmind Follow us on social media! Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/ Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast X - https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast https://www.byuradio.org/a1f5c5df-5a53-4c58-8d15-bb8a6f475bb3 a1f5c5df5a53-4c58-8d15-bb8a6f475bb3 Wed, 24 Jul 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 952 full 2024 5 Richard Craft—former healthcare leader and host of The Men of the House podcast—shares a defining moment from his career when a casual remark to some of his employees led to a formal write-up. Richard reflects on his journey of embracing humility and taking ownership of his actions and how this experience transformed his leadership style. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it!    Richard’s Podcast, The Men of the House – https://www.youtube.com/@RichardPCraft The Men of the House Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themenofthehousepodcast/ Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind – https://www.byuradio.org/topofmind Follow us on social media!  Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/   Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/   Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast   YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast   X -  https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod   Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast https://www.byuradio.org/6048645b-9580-4ee6-9e65-f7a7ad271c4b 6048645b9580-4ee6-9e65-f7a7ad271c4b Wed, 17 Jul 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 1274 full 2024 4 As a young child in Iran, Shima Baughman—criminal law professor and author of The Bail Book—was taught to hate Israel and Jews. She largely left those beliefs behind when she immigrated to the United States with her family. But after graduating from law school, Shima chose to tackle any lingering prejudice she still held by taking on the case of a Hasidic Jewish inmate's right to have a place to pray in prison. Shima shares how the experience taught her to search for the humanity in everyone she meets. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it!    Shima’s book, The Bail Book: a Comprehensive Look at Bail and America’s Criminal Justice System https://www.amazon.com/Bail-Book-Comprehensive-Americas-Criminal/dp/1107131367 Shima’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@closertojesuschrist Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind - https://www.byuradio.org/top-of-mind Follow us on social media! Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/ Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast X - https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast https://www.byuradio.org/a940b5c6-ccf1-4c50-9f2f-a946421bb305 a940b5c6ccf1-4c50-9f2f-a946421bb305 Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 1324 full 2024 3 Parker Kane—beatboxer and motivational speaker—was facing a deep mental health crisis in college. He wanted to be a professional musician but couldn’t seem to find success. Parker slipped into a deep depression. Then, at his lowest point, he got a call from a friend inviting him out for a late-night run to McDonald’s. Parker didn’t feel up to it and almost said “no.” But that night at McDonald’s led to an experience that changed his life and jumpstarted his career. In this episode Parker talks about navigating mental health struggles, the importance of staying open to unexpected opportunities, and how he uses his story has inspire and motivate others. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it!    Parker’s website - parkerkane.co Parker’s podcast, UpBeat with Parker Kane - https://www.parkerkane.co/podcast National Suicide and Crisis Hotline - Dial 988 Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind - https://www.byuradio.org/top-of-mind   Follow us on social media! Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheUncomfyPod/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/uncomfy.podcast/ Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@theuncomfypodcast YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Uncomfy.Podcast X - https://x.com/TheUncomfyPod Threads - https://www.threads.net/@uncomfy.podcast https://www.byuradio.org/bc59a209-e293-4a29-9010-b3543669a02c bc59a209e293-4a29-9010-b3543669a02c Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:00:00 GMT false 1121 full 2024 2 Lisa Valentine Clark—comedian and host of The Lisa Show—had the perfect gift planned for her friend's 40th birthday. But she couldn't have been farther from the truth. The result was some difficult feedback on their friendship. Lisa shares how she stuck with the discomfort in that moment and what she did ten years later to make up for it. We’d love to hear about an Uncomfy moment you’ve experienced. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview challenged and instead of getting defensive or bailing out, you chose to lean into the discomfort and stick with it – and you’re glad you did? Email your story to uncomfy@byu.edu or share it on Instagram and tag us @uncomfy.podcast and we’ll share it! Lisa’s podcast, The Lisa Show - https://www.byuradio.org/the-lisa-show Lisa’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/yourfunnyvalentine/ Julie’s other podcast, Top of Mind - https://www.byuradio.org/top-of-mind Follow us on social media! 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