Genesis 37-41 with Izabele Christensen, Ivy Stout, James CalderonTwo Point Conversion with BYU Football: A Gospel Discussion Podcast • Season 3, Episode 9
Mar 8, 2026 • 1h 11m
Join hosts Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for a powerful episode featuring three special guests: former sister missionaries Izabele Christensen and Ivy Stout, and convert James Calderon, whom they taught in the Washington, D.C. South Mission.
In this deeply personal episode, James shares his remarkable journey from a difficult separation and divorce to finding truth through the restored gospel. What started as a chance encounter on a George Mason University street corner became a life-changing experience that illustrates key principles from the story of Joseph in Genesis 37-41.
James vulnerably discusses his initial hesitation toward baptism, his ongoing battles with old habits, and how temple covenants became "a way to look forward in life." Izzy and Ivy share their perspective on watching God work in someone's life, emphasizing that you don't need to be perfect before making covenants - you need covenants to become perfect.
This episode also powerfully demonstrates that "time and again, good fortune seemed to abandon Joseph, but the Lord never did" - a principle that applies to all our lives as we strive to keep our covenants with God.